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    surfcowboy
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    Just started winging and never rode switch on anything.

    Clinton, the infamous Steamroller says it takes 8 hours to learn switch. I’ve been riding my e-skate on granny low speed switch to try to speed up the curve a bit.

    Long term, 8 hours isn’t much for all the benefits.

    surfcowboy
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    I’ll add that your weight and Wing matter a lot. I’m 63kg, 138lbs. On a midsized or smaller wing those standard masts are stiff enough. Large wings or heavier riders make a difference so before you listen to the internet, know that what’s a noodle to someone else might be fine for you.

    Also there is still debate on mast flex (and everything else in this sport lol) being good or bad. I don’t ride Naish, or rep them, just offering that for smaller riders, and beginners, options are more open. Naish used to use (no idea about now) the same mast that half the industry used and that has been widely discussed as flexy, yet a lot of foils used it. Not saying it is or was good, just that like 4 or more companies used that same mast material lol.

    I still joke that this industry is just a weird MLM and there’s only one company behind it releasing different, incompatible gear every 4 months under a new name, rotating the tech releases to extract the most money out of us. Haha. One day it will come out that Robbie Naish or Starboard invented and runs all the companies and that Kane is just a deep fake sim created in software to sell custom tails.

    Anyone wanna fight over 6mm or 8mm, tory or hex hardware? 😉

    surfcowboy
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    Just checked and my Gong XL is dead flat measuring by my ultra accurate iPhone and clamp with a groove in it method.

    surfcowboy
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    I’ll rough measure mine this week but when I was building a diy wing I was advised to aim for 1 or 2° for front wing.

    Curious to see what brands do. Paging KD…

    surfcowboy
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    Oh man. Yeah that’s exactly the idea behind the bump cap. Just enough to keep the skin from getting broken.

    surfcowboy
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    Kiwi, that’s actually genius. Thx man. Only a foiler knows the feeling lol.

    surfcowboy
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    Beaches were closed and I had a new prone board so I went to the Marina and tried a few dock starts. Way too early since I don’t know how to pump yet but it was good to get the first 10-15 attempts out of the way. Had a 20” high dock which is the top of what I can likely do at my height.

    Landed all my jumps with back foot on the pad. I can see how this is done. Now just need to surf a few more sessions and get the feel of pumping. Thanks to folks who laid out the time needed. I was able to be patient and know it wasn’t hopeless if I didn’t get it right away.

    My take? Totally doable, just need some time and boredom to drive you.

    surfcowboy
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    Bagging, yes. That requires a lot of gear including a pump to suck the air out. But the poor man’s method is easy and yes you just wrap the part that’s damaged.

    Jimmy Lewis does it. Let me see if I can find a link.

    surfcowboy
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    Just my thoughts, I’ve yet to repair one (lucky?) but I’d think a simple bagging rig or poor man’s vacuum bag (clear packing tape or stretch wrap is the best idea. You need some pressure if you want to consolidate fibers. If it’s small I’d use stretch wrap with some sort of release cloth/peel ply to soak up excess resin.

    Anyone else got ideas?

    surfcowboy
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    What masts and plates are M8 like that? That mortise threw me as well. I might ask around out here. Thanks and I was estimating the measurements and agree that 1/8” is all you’d need to step it up.

    Am I right that better aluminum is lighter too? I figure they get what they get out of China.

    surfcowboy
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    Too much, I might want to talk to you about some Frankenstein parts. I think there’s a decent market for a better mast on Gong gear. (Neil Pryde or something else wide?)

    Also their fuselage is dead simple (1.25” aluminum bar stock reduced to 1” to mate to wing) but cheap and heavy. If I stay on their wings (they make 12 now!) I’m going to fix the fuse and maybe a mast. I’ll bet a ton of guys would want to as well. I’ll keep you posted.

    Oh, and both SUP and Prone boards turned out great. Can’t wait to finish the tow board. Thx for the advice on here man.

    surfcowboy
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    Dave, I’ll reply and introduce myself.

    I’m in SoCal (Val all the way) but originally from the South and like Eric, my family are farmers and ranchers.

    I surf North LA County mostly from Sunset to County, though right now I’m rolling up to Ventura County to learn to SUP foil (and soon prone foil.)

    I have a Gong XL foil to figure things out on, big, slow, mellow, and easy. I’ll probably buy a couple more Gong wings to see how they ride as I progress. I’m 5’8” and 140lbs so most any wing will lift me. Some claim Gong is flexy but I’m not sure I’ll feel it.

    Check the chop Shop and I have info on my first builds, which are out of EPS, so no need to use any denser or closed cell foam. 1, 1.5, or 2lb EPS is great.

    I finished a 6’4” x 28 SUP foil to learn on and just hotcoated a 5’6” x 20 1/2 prone board. I have a 4’1” tow board coming after that.

    What is it with all us foilers (I’ve foiled for exactly 2 weeks btw lol) making our own gear? I love it and I think it speaks to the brains and talent of the folks who try to ride these things. It’s not for everybody.

    If y’all are in LA, hit me up. I love to get travelers in the water and can always provide a longboard or foamie to surf.

    surfcowboy
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    Got it done and the blank painted. Gonna glass it and get it in the water soon.

    surfcowboy
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    I got them gorilla glued into the routed slots today. I’m worried I didn’t get enough glue in there but they are 36” long so even if it’s partially coated I think I’m good.

    I was worried about the expansion of the glue pushing them out of the slots. Will the glue over power my boards and weights I stacked on there? I probably had 30 lbs or more across the whole thing.

    I’m gonna finish sand this thing, paint it and glass it. Should have something to show next weekend. I’ll post up the SUP pics too though some of you have been following on the other forum I know.

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